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Sorgiña	Tony in Season 8 May 26 2010, 2:32 PM EDT So in the light of last night's episode where Tony ended up in Mexico following the lead involving Mike Franks, what do you think might happen in the beginning of Season 8? What kind of problems/troubles do you think he'll get into? Because Tony as we all know is a trouble magnet like his mentor Gibbs, wherever they go trouble finds one of them. Let's have your opinions Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
bellswebster	1. RE: Tony in Season 8 May 27 2010, 7:06 AM EDT \| Post edited: May 27 2010, 7:07 AM EDT I get the impression by what I have read and the vids I have seen, that there is more to Allison Hart and her brief case and folder that she gave to Gibbs? I don't trust her.. Perhaps Tony is still investigating the murder of Shannon and Kellys killer whom we know to be Gibbs..but was it him? Was someone else with him? Perhaps he was followed? Gibbs might read the file and find something amiss and he might ask Tony to help him. Mike Franks might know more of the Bell case than he has told anyone. Tony may come up with evidence to suggest that things aren't what they seem. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tonysmel	2. RE: Tony in Season 8 May 29 2010, 11:20 AM EDT I think it depends on a few things. Did Gibbs know Vance was sending Tony to Mexico? If he did, did Gibbs also know that Franks was alive ? If so, Gibbs may have asked him to cover Tony's six. If not, is Tony in Mexico without back-up from Vance? And did Vance brief Tony on everything before he was dispatched to Mexico, so that he now knows about Gibbs killing Hernandez? I think Franks can be both a pro and con to Tony; he can cover Tony quite nicely, but he can also off rogue like Gibbs has done at times. If Franks is a loose cannon bent on revenge, Tony will have his hands full. But if Franks and Tony work as a team, and follow the drug agent to get more info, it may be non-violent and end quickly. On the other hand, I agree with your description of Tony as a "trouble magnet",lol. It's never dull with Tony, so can't wait until S8! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sorgiña	3. RE: Tony in Season 8 May 29 2010, 1:13 PM EDT You could be right there, although I think neither Vance nor Gibbs or Franks would be/are at all surprised at Tony wanting to be midst the fray in order to get Gibbs back to DC, he is after all the Gibbs' loyal St. Bernard per se, even if he doesn't always agree with what Gibbs does he's there for him. I think Franks is a sly wolf who's fond of Gibbs and Tony but less likely to get hurt than the other two, unless it's to end up dead. All in all I think S8 will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tonysmel	4. RE: Tony in Season 8 May 29 2010, 4:14 PM EDT "You could be right there, although I think neither Vance nor Gibbs or Franks would be/are at all surprised at Tony wanting to be midst the fray in order to get Gibbs back to DC, he is after all the Gibbs' loyal St. Bernard per se, even if he doesn't always agree with what Gibbs does he's there for him. I think Franks is a sly wolf who's fond of Gibbs and Tony but less likely to get hurt than the other two, unless it's to end up dead. All in all I think S8 will be interesting to see how this all plays out." I agree. Tony seemed to be expressing some anger in Rule 51, when he and Ziva were in the plane with Gibbs. I think he gets frustrated that Gibbs is sometimes secretive, especially towards him, since he is so loyal and has been on Gibb's team so long now. But I agree he would not hesitate to help Gibbs. As Tony said in Patriot Down, he would do "whatever it takes" to get the job done. And I also agree about Franks. I always remind myself that this is the man who mentored Gibbs. So I think he and Tony will be a good pair, all in all. And I would love to see some bonding scenes between the two in the premiere. They have kind of a grouchy, begrudging attitude towards one another, but you know underneath there's respect. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
rosecake	5. RE: Tony in Season 8 May 29 2010, 8:07 PM EDT I hope that they give us some good scenes with Tony and Franks , though I'm really worried for Tony if his only back up he's Mike . I know that he was a Marine and Gibbs' mentor , but I can't not think that everytime we've seen him , he has brought lots of problem with himself . He likes to work alone and this's really bad if you've to work as a team . And I'm pretty sure that Tony has really enough of all these 'lone-wolf' men . His discussion on the plane with Gibbs and his sigh , after he's met MF , say everything ! A man with no doubts is very dangerous , and to me , MF is this kind of man . Finally Gibbs has understood that he's not infallible , so I really hope that his mentor does the same thing , maybe right on this mission in Mexico . Maybe I'm wrong , but I do not think that Vance knows that MF is alive and I doubt that Gibbs knows something about Tony's mission in Mexico . I think that , when he'll discover it , he'll very angry with Vance , because he's sent his 'son' on mission without protection . Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tonysmel	6. RE: Tony in Season 8 May 30 2010, 8:07 AM EDT "I hope that they give us some good scenes with Tony and Franks , though I'm really worried for Tony if his only back up he's Mike . I know that he was a Marine and Gibbs' mentor , but I can't not think that everytime we've seen him , he has brought lots of problem with himself . He likes to work alone and this's really bad if you've to work as a team . And I'm pretty sure that Tony has really enough of all these 'lone-wolf' men . His discussion on the plane with Gibbs and his sigh , after he's met MF , say everything ! A man with no doubts is very dangerous , and to me , MF is this kind of man . Finally Gibbs has understood that he's not infallible , so I really hope that his mentor does the same thing , maybe right on this mission in Mexico . Maybe I'm wrong , but I do not think that Vance knows that MF is alive and I doubt that Gibbs knows something about Tony's mission in Mexico . I think that , when he'll discover it , he'll very angry with Vance , because he's sent his 'son' on mission without protection ." I also seriously doubt that Vance knows that Franks is alive. But I'm starting to think that Gibbs does possibly know about Tony going to Mexico. In the scene with Gibbs and Vance, where Vance is using Casablanca as a clever way to speak with Gibbs without actually coming out and asking him if he (Gibbs), thought someone should follow the drug agent, and intimated that all Gibbs had to do was nod like Bogey's character did with Louis in the movie, Gibbs did nod. So I suspect he knew Vance would then send someone from his team. Ziva was taking her oath, and McGee's talents don't include an assignment like that at this point in his career, so that left Tony. This is JMO, and it may change over the summer. But I love reading all the thoughts and theories everyone has. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
rosecake	7. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 4:29 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 1 2010, 4:29 AM EDT "I also seriously doubt that Vance knows that Franks is alive. But I'm starting to think that Gibbs does possibly know about Tony going to Mexico. In the scene with Gibbs and Vance, where Vance is using Casablanca as a clever way to speak with Gibbs without actually coming out and asking him if he (Gibbs), thought someone should follow the drug agent, and intimated that all Gibbs had to do was nod like Bogey's character did with Louis in the movie, Gibbs did nod. So I suspect he knew Vance would then send someone from his team. Ziva was taking her oath, and McGee's talents don't include an assignment like that at this point in his career, so that left Tony. This is JMO, and it may change over the summer. But I love reading all the thoughts and theories everyone has. " To me that nod , more than a 'yes' , it seemed 'no' or a 'I don't know' , so I'm not so sure that Gibbs knows where Tony is . JMO :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tonysmel	8. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 7:46 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 1 2010, 7:46 AM EDT "To me that nod , more than a 'yes' , it seemed 'no' or a 'I don't know' , so I'm not so sure that Gibbs knows where Tony is . JMO :)" You know what rosecake, I re-watched the episode, and I agree! I had gone back to watch it again over the weekend, and was shocked that I hadn't noticed that it did in fact look like he nodded no. That's why this is such a great show, I guess; it requires multiple viewings to appreciate everything that is going on. At any rate, there goes that theory, lol. So if Gibbs doesn't know yet that Tony is in Mexico, I would guess he will figure it out when he notices Tony is not at work (unless Vance benching him means he won't return to work until the dust has cleared). Post reply Do you find this valuable?
rosecake	9. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 8:45 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 1 2010, 8:59 AM EDT "You know what rosecake, I re-watched the episode, and I agree! I had gone back to watch it again over the weekend, and was shocked that I hadn't noticed that it did in fact look like he nodded no. That's why this is such a great show, I guess; it requires multiple viewings to appreciate everything that is going on ... " You're right . Everytime we re-watch an NCIS episode , we find out some more details and clues . And the Season 8 Finale is one of the best example of this style of writing . Now I'm really curious to see , how Vance will justify Tony's absence in the office , to the entire team , and not just to Gibbs , especially if Tony is on a secret undercover mission . I think and really hope that MW has the Season Premiere focused on him , like in Truth&Consequences" in Season 7 . His performance has been incredible , worthy of an Oscar actor . He so talented and versatile . He can be goofy , funny ,angry , strong , charming ,competent , serious , sad . He acts , not just with words , but with his eyes and his body too and he's always credible . PP has said that he's the best actor in Hollywood now (and more handsome , I add !) , and I totally agree with her . He deserved more rewards for his job ... and his character too . I mean , why Tony has never received a medal for his service with NCIS ?! I really hope that , in Season 8 , we'll have our beloved old Tony back : smart , competent , loyal , honest , caring , charming , full of good/intelligent dates (I hated the Groucho Marx and the gas mask in "Obsession" , although I really loved Tony in that episode) , funny , a little teasing and 'out-of-suits' (lol) . Please , stop with the incompetent , juvenile , silly and out-of-character Tony ! The day (I hope never !) that he'll leave NCIS , I'll certanly stop watching the Show ... no doubts on it ! Sorry if I deleted something :) Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
tonysmel	10. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 9:17 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 1 2010, 9:17 AM EDT I agree heartily with everything you said! Tony is long overdue for a medal after Requiem, Truth or Consequences, and how about saving all the kids in Bait? Also agree that MW is a very under-rated actor. Mark Harmon once said that Michael has no idea how good he is, and I read a recent interview with his Charlie Valentine director(Jesse Johnson? Sorry, can't remember name), who said Michael should be the leading man in big Hollywood movies. I think he's a little insecure, and that keeps him humble. On one hand, that prevents him from being as big a star as he could be, but on the other, it also makes him even more charmimg and appealing. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sorgiña	11. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 12:55 PM EDT " I agree heartily with everything you said! Tony is long overdue for a medal after Requiem, Truth or Consequences, and how about saving all the kids in Bait? Also agree that MW is a very under-rated actor. Mark Harmon once said that Michael has no idea how good he is, and I read a recent interview with his Charlie Valentine director(Jesse Johnson? Sorry, can't remember name), who said Michael should be the leading man in big Hollywood movies. I think he's a little insecure, and that keeps him humble. On one hand, that prevents him from being as big a star as he could be, but on the other, it also makes him even more charmimg and appealing." Interesting what you mention about MW. This is what the director Melfi said about him regarding the TV film Winding Roads (will get the photos up some time this week - BTW): Michael Weatherly starred as "Mick Simons" opposite Rachel Hunter as his wife "Kelly Simons" in the made for tv movie 'Winding Road' in 1999. A comment about Michael from the director at the official site: "MICHAEL WEATHERLY saved the day," recalls director Ted Melfi. "We had the hardest time casting this part, which was amazing to me because Mick is the male part with the most meat. Three days before Mick was schedule to work, we still didn't have an actor. Rachel Hunter's agent suggested Michael and after a phone conversation with him, I knew he could play the part. He saved us, came totally prepared with the character and the script. I have great respect for that." Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sorgiña	12. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 12:57 PM EDT And here's a link to a 10 min excerpt of that film : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdhyyq_michael-weatherly-as-mick_shortfilms Unfortunately we can't add to the site because it's not a YouTube or MSN video Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tonysmel	13. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 1:58 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 1 2010, 1:58 PM EDT Thankyou Sorgina! I thought I had heard all of Michael's work, but that movie was completely new to me. He's quite amazing in that clip, and just goes to prove he can do hard-core drama just as well as he does the funny stuff. Thanks for sharing. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sorgiña	14. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 1 2010, 4:10 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 1 2010, 4:10 PM EDT Pleasure! I hadn't heard of this film either, although I knew he had done some Indie stuff. This was put up on LJ yesterday, and I've copied some of the caps too to put up here later. I'd love to see his film Charlie Valentine too, where the character there is anything but the goofball we see on NCIS or in some of his other roles. I thought the director's comment was a first rate compliment too. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
rosecake	15. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 2 2010, 9:57 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 10:26 AM EDT Thank you , Sorgina !!! I've never heard anything about this movie , but it confirmes what I've always thought : MW is an amazing and complete actor . I've really liked all this video , especially the scenes with the newborn child . It would be great if we could see the same scenes in NCIS , with Tony finally happy with the right woman (not Ziva , at all !) and their baby . It would be a very good new arc . JMO . Have you heard anything about "Solar Drive" ? Around Christmas , they've said that MW would have shooted this movie during the Summer , but then I did'n't heard anything else about it . He'd have played a detective that investigates a murder in Hollywood world and he'w have been similar to Tony . It would be great if they made an NCIS movie for the big screen . They could even be nominee for Oscars ! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sorgiña	16. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 2 2010, 12:24 PM EDT I agree rosecake. I haven't heard anything about Solar Drive either. Occasionally there is news about Charlie Valentine, which has won several awards in different places. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tonysmel	17. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 2 2010, 1:17 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 1:17 PM EDT When MW was doing publicity in May in NYC, it was mentioned he would return to NY for the "upfronts"(CBS talks with the press about old and upcoming new shows), and that while there, he would be trying to drum up interest for a short film he was doing. I wonder if the film was Solar Drive? I wasn't aware it was a short. Could be they still need financial backing to get the movie made. That's why Charlie Valentine still has not been released to the public(outside of film fests); they don't have a distributor yet. The other thing is, Michael said he was spending May and June on his honeymoon , in Jamaica and France. But as you said, rosecake, it was mentioned previously that he would do the movie this summer. NCIS resumes production in early July. Confusing. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
rosecake	18. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 2 2010, 2:44 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 2:44 PM EDT MW will be in Montecarlo (Monaco) at Montecarlo Television Festival on 6th - 10th June , but not on honeymoon , because as he's said at 'Regis and Kelly' , his wife will star working at LA hospital on those days . He'll be there with CdP , promoting NCIS . It's sad that such a great actor doesn't find a distributor for his movies , but other less talented actors are everywhere with their stupid movies . grrrr Post reply Do you find this valuable?
tonysmel	19. RE: Tony in Season 8 Jun 2 2010, 4:02 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 2 2010, 4:02 PM EDT "MW will be in Montecarlo (Monaco) at Montecarlo Television Festival on 6th - 10th June , but not on honeymoon , because as he's said at 'Regis and Kelly' , his wife will star working at LA hospital on those days . He'll be there with CdP , promoting NCIS . It's sad that such a great actor doesn't find a distributor for his movies , but other less talented actors are everywhere with their stupid movies . grrrr" I could be wrong, but I thought he said she didn't start until after June (in the US hospital system, new Drs start on July 1st. I only know this because I am a health care worker in a hospital). But I agree about other actors. Makes you wonder how these people become so famous. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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